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JayBee

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Posts: 31 Member Since:October 21, 2013

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October 23, 2013 11:55:46

I use getMUbets to monitor my volume. Each new matched bet gets added to a volume total. My strategy needs to know this so the greening algorithm I use is better suited to what I do.

I would think that for those who just fire in bets and then worry about greening up just before the off then the getProfitAndLoss is good enough for them.

I had a look at it last night and decided that I was not getting any benefit. In fact the resulting book was rather lumpy. I prefer a tighter spread between the runners after greening.

Knowing my volume (coupled with my strategy) means that I am crafting bet sizes to suit strategy and risk rather than say lumping £10 backs/lays at everything and then greening before the off.

Last Edited By: JayBee October 23, 2013 11:58:11. Edited 1 time.

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Fred

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November 2, 2013 10:55:08

Not sure if I have to make a post or not in order to activate membership. I've signed-up again as I've lost access to my existing fred77 account.

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birchy

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November 2, 2013 17:42:33

Welcome back Fred! Maybe we can re-activate your Fred77 account? PM me whatever troubles you had. This new forum software might allow me to do something useful....but don't hold your breath!

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Thom

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December 23, 2013 17:11:33

Hi all,

I have been playing around with Betfair bots for a couple of years now. Once I found Birchy's Python API, it became much easier to try out new ideas. However, I still have not found that holy grail, and I am struggling to keep my numbers in the black. I guess the only winner on my botting so far, is Betfair.

Regards,
Thom

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JayBee

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December 24, 2013 13:20:00

Welcome Thom!

It sounds like your bot is doing no better than random and you are losing the overround.

Time for a new strategy.

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troyedwards

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Posts: 1 Member Since:March 23, 2014

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March 24, 2014 21:50:12

Hi from Troy - my first post

Hi Guys

My name is troy and I have just created my first betfair bot using the new API-NG JSON method which has come out  :)

Now that I have access to market data I am going to try a heap of different strategies to see if I can find a winning system.  I will allow the bot to paper trade first - ie find the bets and then log the bet as if it was placed and the track the results.

Troy

Last Edited By: troyedwards March 24, 2014 21:52:40. Edited 1 time.

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birchy

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March 25, 2014 18:00:55

Hi Troy,

Welcome to the forum! It sounds like you are one of the early adopters of API-NG. It makes sense to use the new API if you are just starting out, however those of us with 'working' bots are mostly holding back as we're reluctant to re-write something that works fine.

One word of caution regarding data logging - betfair don't take kindly to users who capture a lot of data but don't place any bets. They will issue a warning after a few weeks and/or suspend your account. The easy way around that is to make sure that you place a small number of bets each day. I believe a lot of people in your position create a simple "gubbins" bot that lays horses at 1.01. The strategy is basically a break-even/slight losing one but is the cheapest way to obtain a lot of data for not much cost.

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Muddy

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April 1, 2014 08:17:14

Hi All,

I started mucking about with Betfair a few years ago, initially as a matched bettor and then doing a bit (generally unsuccessfully) of trading.
I've been in IT for in excess of twenty years and the idea of automation got me interested and I have been creating bots for a while now, using Excel integrating with a well known third party application and then moving on to creating applications using VB.NET and the third party's COM interface.
Strategies I had a couple of years ago were making a profit until something changed and the profit evaporated and since then I've been trying successfully to get something profitable again. I've recently come to realise that what I had been doing just isn't going to work. I saw a great phrase on here yesterday, "Random walk into negativity" that really explains what I had been doing and so I'm taking some time to reassess things and effectively start again.
Going forward I intend to get away from relying on third party software and want to port my application code into using the new API-NG, then, the main rule will be keep it simple and don't get hung up on a plethora of parameters as no amount of fiddling will make an unprofitable bot profitable.

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troglodita

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Posts: 7 Member Since:April 2, 2014

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April 8, 2014 15:11:21

Hi to all!!!!

Hi, I'm new to the forum.I was intrigued with Betfair, i to try to make my proper bot. From browsing the forum, I can see that a lot of people are using Python to build their bots, i want learn how and make money with yours.

 

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JayBee

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Posts: 31 Member Since:October 21, 2013

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April 8, 2014 16:13:09

troglodita wrote:
Hi, I'm new to the forum.I was intrigued with Betfair, i to try to make my proper bot. From browsing the forum, I can see that a lot of people are using Python to build their bots, i want learn how and make money with yours.


 

Welcome,

Just type "python makemeamillionaire.py" on the command line, hit return and book your holiday.

Good luck!

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tokukawa

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Posts: 7 Member Since:April 17, 2014

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April 18, 2014 14:41:15

Hi all,
I am Tokukawa and I am programming my own bot. I would learn as much as possible from you guys and help if would be the case.
I am not native english, so please forgive me for the grammatical orrors :)

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elterion

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Posts: 1 Member Since:April 20, 2014

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April 20, 2014 19:40:34

Hi guys!
I'm new here and I'm seeking for the information about betfair bots. I'm totally dummie in this but I study quickly )

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gunnaracm

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Posts: 1 Member Since:May 20, 2014

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May 27, 2014 07:55:04

Hi,

I'm Alex. I'm interested in programming bots. How can I get access to "Source code" forum?

PS Wow, got it after the first post! ))

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birchy

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Posts: 591 Member Since:May 11, 2008

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May 27, 2014 21:09:06

Welcome! Yes, the Source Code and Strategies sections require a post count >= 1. It's just a deterrent for leechers who don't want to contribute anything....

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serious

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Posts: 1 Member Since:June 1, 2014

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June 1, 2014 23:11:40

Hi all

I run a data collection bot on a Raspberry Pi, under Python3, posting prices to a database server.

My goal is to test strategies against this data in Excel.

I am currently changing to API-NG, with the help of Birchy's excellent example.  Thanks Birchy.

Cheers

Eddie

Last Edited By: serious June 2, 2014 07:31:02. Edited 1 time.

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