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muggles

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Posts: 1 Member Since:May 26, 2014

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June 2, 2014 08:01:44

Hi

I've been using a couple of profitable strategies with software written in VB .NET using the old betfair API. With the impending closure of this API, I am now working on converting to API-NG.

Paul

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JayBee

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June 2, 2014 09:26:47

muggles wrote:
I've been using a couple of profitable strategies with software written in VB .NET using the old betfair API. With the impending closure of this API, I am now working on converting to API-NG.

Paul

Welcome fellow VB.Net-er.

API-NG is a breeze compared to the old SOAP API even with help from Mumbles0.

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JayBee

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June 2, 2014 10:34:39

Herodotus484 wrote:
Hi all,
I have been playing with BetAngel for a while and now I'd like to give it a try developing my own bot.
Read this article this morning and motivated me even more. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-01/for-world-cup-betting-flows-through-banker-turned-bookie.html

Don't get carried away by that article. Start small and see how far you can work your way up the ladder.

I've had dealings with Asian and other syndicates.

They are the sports betting equivalent of High-Frequency traders. And that's where you will fall down. You are in the wrong part of the world.

Although co-location is not possible with bookmakers, where your server sits does matter. For the Asian markets your betting server (or servers) needs to be ideally located in Asia so that latency is minimised for all bets. If you see an arb from here, well, by the time you pump your order in someone in Malaysia or wherever has already taken it.

There are also dark betting pools, just as there are dark markets in the financial world. So out there in Asia, sports betting is just like Wall Street.

However, if you want to be a part of it then you better pack a suitcase. Oh and start reading lots of financial books and get yourself up to quant developer level. It's not a case of some GCSE maths, a little Python and away you go. I am a quant developer and it's very hard, even with a computational finance background.

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June 6, 2014 10:54:23

Hi,

I started using betfair some years ago with my own semi-automatic program using the old API from python.
I haven't used it for about a year, but now I'm back again.
While working on my old code I saw on the betfair developers page that they are introducing a new API and the old one is going to expire.

So I was hoping to see here if others are already using the new API in python and what their experiences are.

I would also be interested in general exchange of ideas about stategies, coding and so on.

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mikelupu

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Posts: 1 Member Since:June 10, 2014

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June 10, 2014 18:25:09

Hi all,

Newbie joining here. Looking forward to some interesting conversations on betfair API and programming bots.

Mike

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heinoska

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Posts: 1 Member Since:July 6, 2014

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July 8, 2014 03:33:47

Hi all,

I'm pretty new to botting on Betfair, but I've scripted for a poker bot before. Looking forward to learning everything there is to know about the Betfair API.

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Suse10

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Posts: 1 Member Since:July 5, 2014

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July 8, 2014 13:51:39

Hi

Hi all,

I am looking at Python and the new API, and JSON structures. I use Python 2.7, never been near 3, suppose I should try it to future proof my code.

I have a couple of scrapers in development which are interesting when the site code changes.

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birchy

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Posts: 591 Member Since:May 11, 2008

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July 9, 2014 19:26:32

Welcome to all the new members! I'm sure we are all looking forward to some fresh activity and in-depth chats.

@Suse10: You're not alone with Python 2.7. I have Debian Wheezy on all my machines, so use the default version that ships with it.

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JayS

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July 16, 2014 12:54:18

First off It's really good to be here and meet you all.  I've been working in the gaming industry coming up to 10 years now and when I started I had no clue about betting whatsoever - I just needed a job and had a mate who was working in that office! I gradually learnt about all the different bets and started to think about how one could actually profit from these markets. Like many I tried a wide range of tactics with various degrees of success and failure, and eventually started to find some rhythm and consistency as my experience grew.

I also started a blog (http://my-betfair-trading-journal.blogspot.co.uk) to help with my discipline which assisted with my progress a great deal. There were a few botting blogs kicking about and I always wanted to get involved in automation but never really felt I had the technical ability to pull it off. Nevertheless I tried all the usual shortcuts via Excel integration and various other subscription vendor API routes, and although they helped me get closer to my goals their shortcomings became ever more apparent as my botting needs developed.

Seeking a stable longterm solution in 2012 I contacted Birchy, and with his guidance setup a basic bot in this new and unfamiliar territory - free API using a Linuxbox and Python 2.7. Since then despite the steep learning curve I've never looked back, the jump in quality of performance and stability were undeniable and I knew once I'd learnt the ropes this was the stable longterm solution I'd been looking for. It took me about a year to really start writing my own scripts and I'm still not advanced enough to implement all of my ideas, however I've been really pleased with my progress and results since making the switch.

I'm currently working on rewriting my existing bots for the new API. A bit of a pain but I'm sure with a bit of support from eacther we can get passed this as smoothly as possible. I've hardly met anybody who does this botting thing so it's comforting to have a forum like this kicking about. Best of luck to you all!

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ritsy

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Posts: 2 Member Since:July 15, 2014

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July 23, 2014 03:16:12

Hi all,

Started looking at Betfair around 2008 after reading betting book by Colin Magee. Played around but nothing serious.
I look forward to trying again using the new Betfair API.

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jimmybob

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Posts: 15 Member Since:August 28, 2013

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July 25, 2014 09:36:29

What did you think of the Magee book?  I had a brief look over it but didn't find it particularly useful. 

The difficult thing in this game is devising profitable strategies rather than creating a good software system, though being able to write a good bot undoubtedly helps.
 

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syserr

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Posts: 1 Member Since:November 15, 2013

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July 25, 2014 20:25:38

Hi all,
Just to introduce myself... I'm working for a b&m casino and also enjoy computers and betting.
My intrest is in boting exchange games in paticular exchange holdem and omaha

Cheers
Syserr

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ritsy

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Posts: 2 Member Since:July 15, 2014

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August 4, 2014 13:51:04

I liked the book because it explained the Betfair API quite well and gave good examples.

You're right about good strategies being more important than coding. 

 

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RJBF

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Posts: 1 Member Since:August 9, 2014

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August 11, 2014 12:38:03

Hi All,

Have been on betfair since 2012. Just came to know that the betting could be automated. Looking for more info on how to start coding. Know a little of vba excel/sql server.

Any little bit of help will be much appreciated.

Cheers,

RJ

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zemedelec

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Posts: 1 Member Since:August 22, 2014

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August 26, 2014 16:29:16

Hi all,

I ve been botting for 2 years already using mainly excel and focus on tennis with moderate success. Now I decided to try UK horses also, but found it very difficult compare to tennis. Therefore I am here to get some inspiration, motivation and experiences.

Good luck to all!

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elpibah

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Posts: 1 Member Since:September 7, 2014

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September 7, 2014 15:16:32

Hi guys! Since 2008 I am interested in trading, new strategies and lately in programming in python to improve betfair bots. There are not well developed bots for football market which is the market I intend work on.

I want to learn with you and to share my thoughts and strategies with you.. Hope to learn a lot and be useful helping people around!

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